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		<title>By: Daron Maffia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daron Maffia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 10:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heya i’m for the primary time here. I came across this board and I find It really helpful &amp; it helped me out much. I hope to provide one thing back and aid others like you helped me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heya i’m for the primary time here. I came across this board and I find It really helpful &amp; it helped me out much. I hope to provide one thing back and aid others like you helped me.</p>
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		<title>By: nativeRoute</title>
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		<dc:creator>nativeRoute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 09:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i&#039;m a &quot;card carrying Indian too Grayson. but that hasn&#039;t stopped you from expressing a condescending elitist attitude toward my questions posed to you on other forums. i suppose you are one of those &quot;card carrying indians&quot; who looks a person over and makes character assessments based on the shade of complexion. 

if i were to express the same opinion about ndns selling cigarettes you just did, you&#039;d look at me and &quot;oh it&#039;s the Man&quot; - no one likes a hypocrite]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m a &#8220;card carrying Indian too Grayson. but that hasn&#8217;t stopped you from expressing a condescending elitist attitude toward my questions posed to you on other forums. i suppose you are one of those &#8220;card carrying indians&#8221; who looks a person over and makes character assessments based on the shade of complexion. </p>
<p>if i were to express the same opinion about ndns selling cigarettes you just did, you&#8217;d look at me and &#8220;oh it&#8217;s the Man&#8221; &#8211; no one likes a hypocrite</p>
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		<title>By: Dan in Akron,OH</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan in Akron,OH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, Nwe york is peeved about the loss of &quot;their&quot; cig tax dollars? maybe they should concider lowering their outragous taxes in order to better COMPETE with the Indians in the market place. Ya know, kinda like capitolisim, free trade, ya know, some of the things this country was founded upon.

Na, it&#039;s all about the money. 

what will be next? fuel sales (untaxed) on the rez. what about beer sales to non-tribal members. 

ya know, come to think about it, what about all the lottery dollars &quot;lost&quot; to the rez. 

my favorite part of this artical was &quot;yea, we&#039;ve been fighting terrorism since 1492&quot; 

Classic USA politics. money grubbing bastards!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, Nwe york is peeved about the loss of &#8220;their&#8221; cig tax dollars? maybe they should concider lowering their outragous taxes in order to better COMPETE with the Indians in the market place. Ya know, kinda like capitolisim, free trade, ya know, some of the things this country was founded upon.</p>
<p>Na, it&#8217;s all about the money. </p>
<p>what will be next? fuel sales (untaxed) on the rez. what about beer sales to non-tribal members. </p>
<p>ya know, come to think about it, what about all the lottery dollars &#8220;lost&#8221; to the rez. </p>
<p>my favorite part of this artical was &#8220;yea, we&#8217;ve been fighting terrorism since 1492&#8243; </p>
<p>Classic USA politics. money grubbing bastards!</p>
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		<title>By: Gay Himmels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gay Himmels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After the 1960s, many Americans felt that people had evolved. We recognized the atrocities of  war, the nobleness of the Civil Rights Movement, and we began to lament over our the worst sin in our history-the unjust treatment of Native Americans. 
There was a revolution, the people stood up and despite the conflicts and violence, we won. That victory was more than political, more than a  shining example of democracy at work. It was a moral achievement. We fought, not only for the freedom and justice of ourselves, but for all mankind. This was a great nation for a brief moment.  
Looking back at our courage, how we joined hands and stood up against a government gone astray, against tyranny backed by greed and power, What happened? Have we become too old or are we just 
afraid because of the new strategy of fear that those in power have thought up to paralyze us? 
Have the young ones not studied our history or have they just lost any sense of moral integrity or justice.
Just pick up an American History book. It will most likely begin with The Revolution and the foundation of our political system of democracy. The slogan of the time was &quot;no taxation without 
representation.&quot;  This was the first cry for human rights.

Yes, cigarettes kill people
     alcohol kills people
     processed and genetically engineered food kills people
     contaminated food from China kills people
     chemicals in the big corporate farms kill people
     fish from polluted waters kills people
     pollution kills people
     wars kill people
     greed kills people
     people are killing people and the planet
It&#039;s not about the cigarettes. It&#039;s money, man.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the 1960s, many Americans felt that people had evolved. We recognized the atrocities of  war, the nobleness of the Civil Rights Movement, and we began to lament over our the worst sin in our history-the unjust treatment of Native Americans.<br />
There was a revolution, the people stood up and despite the conflicts and violence, we won. That victory was more than political, more than a  shining example of democracy at work. It was a moral achievement. We fought, not only for the freedom and justice of ourselves, but for all mankind. This was a great nation for a brief moment.<br />
Looking back at our courage, how we joined hands and stood up against a government gone astray, against tyranny backed by greed and power, What happened? Have we become too old or are we just<br />
afraid because of the new strategy of fear that those in power have thought up to paralyze us?<br />
Have the young ones not studied our history or have they just lost any sense of moral integrity or justice.<br />
Just pick up an American History book. It will most likely begin with The Revolution and the foundation of our political system of democracy. The slogan of the time was &#8220;no taxation without<br />
representation.&#8221;  This was the first cry for human rights.</p>
<p>Yes, cigarettes kill people<br />
     alcohol kills people<br />
     processed and genetically engineered food kills people<br />
     contaminated food from China kills people<br />
     chemicals in the big corporate farms kill people<br />
     fish from polluted waters kills people<br />
     pollution kills people<br />
     wars kill people<br />
     greed kills people<br />
     people are killing people and the planet<br />
It&#8217;s not about the cigarettes. It&#8217;s money, man.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Sundown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl Sundown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The use of the totem pole is totally incorrect, as I have said over the years that the Native American isn&#039;t even at the bottom of the &quot;food chain&quot;...we&#039;re not even on the food chain, being booted off by all the immigrants, legal or illegal, &amp; other races who seem to warrant more attention than we do, simply because we have only wanted to be left alone.  We&#039;ve proven we&#039;re here to stay, all efforts to assimilate us having failed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The use of the totem pole is totally incorrect, as I have said over the years that the Native American isn&#8217;t even at the bottom of the &#8220;food chain&#8221;&#8230;we&#8217;re not even on the food chain, being booted off by all the immigrants, legal or illegal, &amp; other races who seem to warrant more attention than we do, simply because we have only wanted to be left alone.  We&#8217;ve proven we&#8217;re here to stay, all efforts to assimilate us having failed.</p>
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		<title>By: Just a Squaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just a Squaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Philip Morris claiming to be a Indian in Europe.

Industry resistance 


Phillip Morris has already filed a complaint with the minister of justice in Finland, as legislation proposing such draconian laws may be infringing on EU directives. Lauri Mäkinen, head of BAT’s corporate and regulatory affairs in Finland, said: “Even though the ministry of social affairs and health does seem to have great confidence in getting rid of smoking by legislation, they seem to be overlooking the fact that, while there is a ban on snus in place, snus is in fact the only tobacco product in Finland which is growing. Smuggling and illicit trade in cigarettes is also illegal in Finland, and therefore the authorities have a full mandate to eliminate it, but still the problem persists and does not seem to be going anywhere. The bill is under review in the parliamentary constitutional committee, and we are waiting to see what the committee’s view is. One more issue is that the arguments of the government seem to say that the objective would mean that, when it comes to tobacco, there is less or no need to honour existing legislation or treaties that relate to tobacco. We think this is just wrong.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philip Morris claiming to be a Indian in Europe.</p>
<p>Industry resistance </p>
<p>Phillip Morris has already filed a complaint with the minister of justice in Finland, as legislation proposing such draconian laws may be infringing on EU directives. Lauri Mäkinen, head of BAT’s corporate and regulatory affairs in Finland, said: “Even though the ministry of social affairs and health does seem to have great confidence in getting rid of smoking by legislation, they seem to be overlooking the fact that, while there is a ban on snus in place, snus is in fact the only tobacco product in Finland which is growing. Smuggling and illicit trade in cigarettes is also illegal in Finland, and therefore the authorities have a full mandate to eliminate it, but still the problem persists and does not seem to be going anywhere. The bill is under review in the parliamentary constitutional committee, and we are waiting to see what the committee’s view is. One more issue is that the arguments of the government seem to say that the objective would mean that, when it comes to tobacco, there is less or no need to honour existing legislation or treaties that relate to tobacco. We think this is just wrong.”</p>
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		<title>By: The Buffalo Post » Blog Archive &#187; David vs. Goliath battle in New York over tribal smoke shops</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Buffalo Post » Blog Archive &#187; David vs. Goliath battle in New York over tribal smoke shops</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] N.Y. (AP/Robert Mecea)   We don&#8217;t much care for the &#8220;totem pole&#8221; headline on this story in the Long Island Press, nor the accompanying illustration &#8211; but the story itself is a [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] N.Y. (AP/Robert Mecea)   We don&#8217;t much care for the &#8220;totem pole&#8221; headline on this story in the Long Island Press, nor the accompanying illustration &#8211; but the story itself is a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: George Mason</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right to arm bears,

VERY VERY VERY well said.  You sound like somebody with a brain and sence of right and wrong, something that a citizen should be like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right to arm bears,</p>
<p>VERY VERY VERY well said.  You sound like somebody with a brain and sence of right and wrong, something that a citizen should be like.</p>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what about the massive crime behind all this?  funny how that doesnt make the article about the poor indian reservation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what about the massive crime behind all this?  funny how that doesnt make the article about the poor indian reservation.</p>
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		<title>By: Right to arm bears</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right to arm bears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1) Bloomberg is mayor of New York City not, the der Führer. He doesn&#039;t get to make policy across the state, nation or planet. His personal objections to smoking are not shared by the overwhelming majority of Americans. Suffolk County and it&#039;s citizens should be telling Bloomberg to G.F himself.

2) Being overweight is substantially more dangerous to a person than is smoking, but tobacco companies are an easier target that the food prep, agriculture, biotech and marketing industries.

3) The jihad against smoking is a personal right issue. Smoking has never been illegal. Smoking is a matter of personal choice. It is a &quot;Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness issue.

4) Tobacco is important to the religious beliefs of indigenous people.

5) The ridiculous taxes being collected on these products are not being used to support, maintain and improve the lives of any smokers, the majority of these funds goes to funding &quot;other&quot; items.

6) The government doesn&#039;t care whether you live, die or grow mushrooms in your crack. They care about money, control and maintaining their hold on &quot;power&quot;.

7) If you want to die a horrible painful lingering death by way of tobacco, it&#039;s your right to do so.

8) The lifestyle police are distracting citizens from the real problems facing this nation. 

A) Economy Deficit, 

B) Growth of Chinese economic dominance, 

C) Erosion of personal rights, freedoms and liberty, 

D) Political gridlock and the polarization of the electorate

E) Decline and demise of America the nation and America the society.

9) You don&#039;t want someone else to smoke around you, is a much different issue from you don&#039;t want anyone else to smoke anywhere. If the later is your preference, you can G.F.Y. Fascist.

If you allow the government to take this liberty from you, what liberty, freedom or right will be next?

Hey what happened to government for the people, by the people or are you to chicken-sh^t to stand up and give your life to defend this nation?

I guess you just want to send other peoples children to die so you can live your life free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Bloomberg is mayor of New York City not, the der Führer. He doesn&#8217;t get to make policy across the state, nation or planet. His personal objections to smoking are not shared by the overwhelming majority of Americans. Suffolk County and it&#8217;s citizens should be telling Bloomberg to G.F himself.</p>
<p>2) Being overweight is substantially more dangerous to a person than is smoking, but tobacco companies are an easier target that the food prep, agriculture, biotech and marketing industries.</p>
<p>3) The jihad against smoking is a personal right issue. Smoking has never been illegal. Smoking is a matter of personal choice. It is a &#8220;Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness issue.</p>
<p>4) Tobacco is important to the religious beliefs of indigenous people.</p>
<p>5) The ridiculous taxes being collected on these products are not being used to support, maintain and improve the lives of any smokers, the majority of these funds goes to funding &#8220;other&#8221; items.</p>
<p>6) The government doesn&#8217;t care whether you live, die or grow mushrooms in your crack. They care about money, control and maintaining their hold on &#8220;power&#8221;.</p>
<p>7) If you want to die a horrible painful lingering death by way of tobacco, it&#8217;s your right to do so.</p>
<p>8) The lifestyle police are distracting citizens from the real problems facing this nation. </p>
<p>A) Economy Deficit, </p>
<p>B) Growth of Chinese economic dominance, </p>
<p>C) Erosion of personal rights, freedoms and liberty, </p>
<p>D) Political gridlock and the polarization of the electorate</p>
<p>E) Decline and demise of America the nation and America the society.</p>
<p>9) You don&#8217;t want someone else to smoke around you, is a much different issue from you don&#8217;t want anyone else to smoke anywhere. If the later is your preference, you can G.F.Y. Fascist.</p>
<p>If you allow the government to take this liberty from you, what liberty, freedom or right will be next?</p>
<p>Hey what happened to government for the people, by the people or are you to chicken-sh^t to stand up and give your life to defend this nation?</p>
<p>I guess you just want to send other peoples children to die so you can live your life free.</p>
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		<title>By: PcNeumo</title>
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		<dc:creator>PcNeumo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ eli... did I miss something you ask.... Apparantly the whole article... lol

I am not an Indian, and this this really pisses me off to the point were I&#039;m going to write my elected officials and tell them so. Big tobacco wins and Indians get the shaft, Again... What part of that did you not get?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ eli&#8230; did I miss something you ask&#8230;. Apparantly the whole article&#8230; lol</p>
<p>I am not an Indian, and this this really pisses me off to the point were I&#8217;m going to write my elected officials and tell them so. Big tobacco wins and Indians get the shaft, Again&#8230; What part of that did you not get?</p>
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		<title>By: Eli Grayson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eli Grayson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[did I miss something here...cigarettes kill millions people each year and is the number one cause for high health insurance rates in the United States....and yes, dont called me the man...I am card carrying Indian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did I miss something here&#8230;cigarettes kill millions people each year and is the number one cause for high health insurance rates in the United States&#8230;.and yes, dont called me the man&#8230;I am card carrying Indian.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Henderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Henderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well if more smoke shops carried those Crown7 electric cigarettes then then smoke shops wouldnt have to worry about taxes and stuff....I think those Crown7 e-cigs are the future of smoking!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well if more smoke shops carried those Crown7 electric cigarettes then then smoke shops wouldnt have to worry about taxes and stuff&#8230;.I think those Crown7 e-cigs are the future of smoking!</p>
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